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Questionnaire 1: Question 8 - Yes Responses
Have you had any experience of gay men or lesbians within the Methodist Church? Could you describe that experience and comment upon any issues it raised for you?‘It didn’t
raise issues for me at the time but after
the issue was brought into the open I did find the response of the
person in
question extremely arrogant and bigoted.’
‘The
first was a second hand account where a person
still loved their wife who had left him for another woman. He was sad, but could only
love. The second
was a minister, but I did not
find out till after he had left. He
himself
had a difficult streak in his nature.
A
good preacher who gave the gospel message powerfully, yet wanted to get
his own
back in preaching etc when he felt hurt and the circuit vote was a
majority not
to prolong his ministry here. It
does
raise issues of working with young people.
The third two had a good ministry in preaching and are
well liked by
myself and people here.’
‘We
did have one minister in the circuit but I was
unaware of his sexuality until he left.
When I knew this I was concerned because of his
involvement with youth
work in the circuit but then in retrospect you should have concern with
anyone
involved with youth work that they are not going to abuse their
position.’
‘We
had a gay minister at *** church some years
ago. He was a good
speaker and was the
prospective Labour candidate for ***.
He committed an “offence” and was
moved from this circuit and lost his
candidature for ***. I
also knew a
Methodist who was a prospective candidate (conservative) for ***. Later [there was]
an entry into some
business premises where he was holding a male brothel.
He suffered the same fate.’
‘1n
1980s we had a male Methodist minister who was
single and was quite acceptable in the circuit until it became known
that he
was homosexual. Then
there was discord,
but he was an eloquent and excellent preacher and I learned from
members of his
churches that he was extremely kind, thoughtful and helpful to
everyone.’
‘***
had a gay minister for 5 years. The
focus of his life and work for the
church was on his ministry. His
sexuality was not a major issue so far as I am aware.’
‘1,
Methodist minister and friend. We
were not aware he was gay when he came to
the circuit. The
only impact on his
ministry was as a result of the attitude of others.
From my perspective it did not affect his ministry. 2, Vicar in the Church of
England. In this
case his orientation was towards
children – boys. He
was a married man
and we were not aware he was gay until the case hit the headlines. He was withdrawn
immediately and the subject
of a court case. This
obviously
affected his ministry.’
‘As
I have written on the other side we have had a
gay minister and yes it was quite a surprise to us as it
didn’t become known
until just before the end of his appointment in our circuit, but he was
still
accepted by my church at ***.’
‘A
gay minister within our circuit had to leave due
to ill feeling caused by prejudice, although he was an excellent
preacher and
his social skills and work were very good.’
‘Incident
of prejudice towards a gay lay preacher’
'It
didn’t affect me in any way at all personally,
but it did with some members of the church.’
‘Just
one Methodist minister in our circuit, who I
might add, preached a very good sermon and helped us (my husband and
I), when
things became financially difficult in as much as finding my husband a
job, for
which we were immensely grateful.’
‘Not
in church but have worked with them, and been on
holiday and seen them. I
find it hard
to mix, as I feel sick to see them kissing and cuddling.’
‘Distracted
and uncomfortable’
‘Whilst
in the Boys’ Brigade it was found that an
officer was “gay” and tried to pass on his
“weakness” to young boys.
This officer resigned from the company.’
‘I
accepted this person and we were good friends but
some people made life very difficult for this gentleman, which caused
upset in
the church.’
'We
have had a gay minister in the circuit a few
years ago, but it didn’t appear to interfere with the job he
was doing very
well.’
'***
was my minister when I was a young lad in the
*** Boys’ Brigade at ***.
I was about
12/13 was not involved with the politics, too young, but it appeared
that he
was hounded out the circuit. There
may
have been other reasons but at the time it looked like it was because
he “came
out”.’
‘Because
the subject is nothing new, the older ones
among us will well remember a Methodist minister in our midst who quite
frankly
shocked many and surprised me that he could quite openly admit to being
gay. I am friendly
with some one at the
moment who come within this category, I am pleased that this person
does not hold
any special office.’
‘We
did have a gay minister at one time in this
circuit although he was a good preacher he was made to leave the
circuit
eventually.’
‘It
proved very divisive’
‘One
of our local minister was a practising gay
man. It did not
effect his ministry in
any way and I can see no problem what consenting adults do or not do in
their
private lives as long as it does not affect innocent people and they do
not
force their opinions on other people.’
‘Rev
*** was here for some time and most people
accepted him. I
found him to be a very
good minister.’
'In
concert party – gay men were very acceptable and
nice people to know.’
‘A
certain Methodist minister, who became a friend,
was not known to me to be gay until much later in his ministry. This acquired knowledge
made no difference
to our friendship nor did his sexual orientation impinge on church
ministry.’