| Pilgrimage of Faith |
Questionnaire 2: Question 8 - Yes Responses
Do you think the 'Pilgrimage of Faith' has achieved anything to combat repression and discrimnation, to work for justice and human rights and to give dignity and worth to people whatever their sexuality?‘I
certainly feel there has been an
improvement in attitudes to homosexuals etc. in recent years.’
‘It
has helped me come out as a gay
man, and as a minister who happens to be gay I “came
out” from the rostrum at the
2005 Conference, and have only received support as a result. I have not had any hate
mail or homophobic
abuse. It was one
of the best things I
have ever done.’
‘Whilst
no longer a member of the Methodist Church, I
am still in regular contact with friends and family who are still in
regular
attendance, and the way they speak, general congregation attitudes have
changed
for the positive (more acceptable) in the past couple of
years.’
‘In
the main I have had a positive
and constructive experience particularly with ministers when they have
discovered my sexuality.’
‘In the main I think
the church nationally has come
to a better place because of it. The
official line is much modified as a result of that, and other debates. Whether it has
fundamentally altered the
view of the general congregation of the churches on the ground is a
different
matter altogether and there is much work yet to be done at that level.
It is one thing for Conference
to state
something but quite another for that to be fully accepted and enacted
by the
membership at large. Whilst
it is clear
that the church as a single entity acknowledges and upholds the rights
and
dignities of all people, irrespective of sexuality, there are many
individual members
who do not and use their Christian faith as a means to oppress such
people,
even to this day.
I mentioned above the other part
of resolution six, namely the
“celebration of the ministry of lesbians and gay men within
the Church”. This
is something yet to be fully explored
or acted upon. If
it were taken as
simply put it would suggest that there should be no barrier to openly
gay and
lesbian people holding office as Presbyter or Deacon within the
Methodist
Church. Whist there
are lesbians and
gay men in both ministries their full acceptance and celebration
remains,
sadly, an unachieved aim.’
‘Yes,
because at least it has aired
the subject, rather than keep the lid on it and allow it to boil and
fester. But the sad
impression I am
left with is that a lot of secular-minded non church going people are
more
gay-friendly than many who are church members.
But opinion is still polarized in the Methodist Church
although there is
perhaps more politeness that there used to be in the expression of
these contrasting
views. There are
those who are happy to
have Local Preachers in gay relationships and ministers in gay
partnerships
ministering to them, whilst there are others who would become ? at the
prospect
– probably completely ignorant as to how many gays/lesbians
are in such
positions but keep “it” quiet.
I am one
of the people who believe that a lot of the anti-gay/lesbian
“feeling” in the
church is not really about sexual orientation at all but about what is
Biblical
Truth. Some believe
the Bible is a Rule
Book (even though it’s contradictory and even some of the
most
conservative-minded Methodists choose to ignore lots of bits of what it
says): others
believe the Bible to be
like a growing tree, producing new growth day by day, relevant as we
move from
now into the future. We
– the latter –
believe the Bible was written for the people of the time and not
intended to be
applied with brutally literal interpretation throughout future
centuries. Sadly, I
believe some Christians believe
liberal, radical thinking people “have got it
wrong” and aren’t really wanted
in their church. (A
lot pf the power
behind this approach comes from the USA where a lot of money is
available to
support it.)’
‘In
a limited way opinion has moved
forward but the atmosphere is still difficult for clergy, deacons,
etc’
‘It
gave a way for the issue to be
re-addressed in a non-confrontational way, which has allowed some
people to
change their opinions. This
in itself
means that some people are better informed and less oppressive in their
behaviors. It is
only a staging post
however, and the Methodist Church as a whole needs to face up to the
extent of
its oppression.’
‘At
least some of the issues are now
being talked through much more widely within the church and secular
society.’
‘Most
are entrenched in their opinions
and the evangelical wing of Methodism has been harsh in its comments. It is still not possible
for gay and lesbian
people to hold office while living in full same-sex
partnerships.’
‘Possibly? Because there is more
openness and possible acceptance.’
‘Limited.
I think it has in the
sense that some LGB people within the Church